last one JT, i swear

I understand that about the Coyote woman, and yes that is very cool of her, I think. However, if you look at the story from another view point, she is sort of selfishly using the man because at the same time she is hurting this other woman. So its like, a woman putting down another woman for the guy. I don't think any feminist wants to portray that type of message in their stories.

IM GOING TO BED. enough bickering for one night.

agree to disagree?

JT,

Two more things.

I have to disagree with you on the Coyote woman. She seems like a strong figure but she is also hooking up with this guy who is just awful. He lies to her too and she doesn't do anything about it either! I just don't understand how a feminist story could possibly have so many negatively portrayed women.

Second, I don't know any other works done by Pam, So I'm not sure whether she is a feminist author or not. However, from this story, I'm really not feeling the feminist aura.

Mind you, thats simply an opinion of a partially ignorant young woman.

Dear Jack Treseler

Jack Treseler, first off, as you can see from my username, Sara does not have an H at the end. But thats beside the point.

I believe your words were "it seems like an ignorant feminist on repeat." Forgive me for assuming the "it" was Pam. Even though you now admit that "by the nature of her writing... she seems to convey that attitude."

I know you didn't say it wasn't a feminist story. In fact I believe I am the one trying to prove its not, and you are the one thinks it is, correct? "How to talk to a Hunter" is merely a fictional account of a commonly seen relationship in society, unfortunately. Its a tale of a man who takes advantage of a women who is way too vulnerable and ridiculously attached. She outwardly professes her love to him, and in return, he abuses her trust causing her internal destruction. Obviously Pam does not like the type of relationship this couple is experiencing because she portrays the affair to be a negative one. She's just warning her readers not to get mixed up with any of those badass heartbreakers.

Well, I don't recall any mention of female empowerment. Its merely a story of one persons' actions causing the downfall of another person.

I wouldn't say Pam Houston's attitude is that of an ignorant feminist at all. She's simply telling a story. I mean, she is a famous author, she can't be too ignorant, eh?

Response to Jack

Jack Treseler, I am a little confused on your comment you mentioned twice that said the author sounded liked "an ignorant feminist on repeat." I mean, I guess I could sorta see how you'd think shes a feminist because she portrays the boyfriend as a huge jerk. And, she doesn't give them names, which is an authors way of stating that the story is common and the characters actions are universal. However, if she were a crazy "feminist on repeat" wouldn't she give the woman more dominating characteristics? Wouldn't she end the story with the girlfriend dumping the jerk and finding true love elsewhere? In the many feminist books I've read in the past, the woman or the women always stand strong in the end because they bind together and form an alliance against the males. In this story, the other woman (her friend) hardly helps the girlfriend; she sees her friend falling and doesn't REALLY try to stop her from getting totally hurt. Also, Janie Coyote is some woman who probably knows just as well as the main character does that the boyfriend is a cheating tramp, but that doesn't stop her either. What kind of feminist author portrays women as insignificant and needy? On top of that, what kind of feminist author casts women as characters who instead of binding together, stomp on each others' feelings and integrity solely to get the guy? So Jack Treseler, my question to you is this: what do you mean when you say Pam Houston is ignorant? What is it exactly that she is unaware of? That this story is so not a feminist story? or do you still think it is?